New projector headlights NEED HELP

[kemassey]

I'm looking at getting a set of projector headlights for my 09 fusion. Right now I'm running HID H7 on low beams and stock H11 for high beams. I couldn't get a proper answer from the seller about what type of bulbs will fit in the new housings.

I would like to use the HID that I'm using now. I was told that the HID is to big to fit into the projector tube on the headlights. There seems to be one manufacture that sells chrome and black lights. They are sold be different business but all look

the same to me. I just want to be sure that I can use my HID before I spend all this money and find out it won't work. I will post a pic of what I've been looking at. Any input would be appreciated.

 

Kevin

[bbf2530]

I'm looking at getting a set of projector headlights for my 09 fusion. Right now I'm running HID H7 on low beams and stock H11 for high beams. I couldn't get a proper answer from the seller about what type of bulbs will fit in the new housings.

I would like to use the HID that I'm using now. I was told that the HID is to big to fit into the projector tube on the headlights. There seems to be one manufacture that sells chrome and black lights. They are sold be different business but all look

the same to me. I just want to be sure that I can use my HID before I spend all this money and find out it won't work. I will post a pic of what I've been looking at. Any input would be appreciated.

 

Kevin

 

HI Kevin. :D What I can tell you from the grapevine is that at least one member on another Fusion Forum purchased that type of Fusion projector/halo aftermarket headlights. The build quality and fit were not good and the light pattern/diffusion through the projectors was poor.

 

Whatever you decide to do, good luck. :beerchug:

[kemassey]

HI Kevin. :D What I can tell you from the grapevine is that at least one member on another Fusion Forum purchased that type of Fusion projector/halo aftermarket headlights. The build quality and fit were not good and the light pattern/diffusion through the projectors was poor.

 

Whatever you decide to do, good luck. :beerchug:

 

Thanks for the reply. I will wait until a better product comes out.

[Willygolf77]

Hey Kevin

 

I am looking at getting these as well. I have done a TON of research on these as well as doing a projector retrofit on my existing headlights. The bulb type that this aftermarket projector headlight assembly uses is H1 for the low beam projector and H1 for the high beam reflector. So your current HID conversion bulbs will not work with these headlights. Things I'm considering before I buy are;

 

1. How much do I want to spend? Aftermarket projector assembly $320-$400(depending on where you buy). If you want HID along with these headlights it will cost another $35-$150(depending on where you buy). If you do a retrofit, I would recommend getting the Mini Morimoto H1 kit. This is cheaper at $270. This retrofit comes with HID bulb and ballast so there is no need to buy an HID kit along with it.

 

2. How much work do I want to do? The aftermarket headlights would require me taking off the bumper and removing existing headlights, wiring the led lights and halos into existing parking lights and wiring the aftermarket HID kit. The retrofit would require taking off the front bumper, removing existing headlights, baking them open and disassembling them, modifying shroud and/or reflector for fitment, reassemble headlight, wiring HID kit and checking headlight alignment.

 

This is what I'm leaning towards. Getting the aftermarket projector headlights, buying H1(due to aftermarket headlight bulb) Morimoto HID kit with CanBus(to avoid bulb out warning) with H11 harness(to hook into existing headlight harness) from the RetrofitSource($150). The reason I am doing this is that the aftermarket headlights give me the "look" I am going for with 2 halos and black housing which will work with my "blackout" theme but I get a GREAT HID kit from the RetrofitSource with a great reputation on their products and service! I know there are some concerns about fitment and light output with these Spec D Tuning headlights but from what I've seen I am willing to take my chances. Many have bought these headlights! Light output and pattern might not be as good as doing a retrofit but again, I am going more for the look rather than having the "perfect cutoff". I get a high quality HID kit for my lows and another matching HID kit for my fogs to complete the look!

 

One more option that I want to mention is sending your headlights to Advanced Automotive Concepts (aacstyle). They will do the retrofit for you with any halos, leds and projectors that you want! This would be the perfect option if it wasn't for 2 MAJOR problems! 1. You either have to send your existing headlights(kind of a problem if you drive your car) or buy a replacement set $$ and send those in! Who knows how long they will have them for but they do AWESOME work from what I've seen. 2. They are VERY expensive! I emailed them and asked for a quote for a projector retrofit to my low beam, halos and painting the reflector housing. They emailed me back promptly and said it would cost $717 to do the retrofit with halos, $150 to paint and another $229 for HID setup plus the cost of shipping to and from! That's $1100 before shipping costs and new headlights to send them! So this option could cost you around $1500 after all is said and done!

 

This is just my opinion after doing weeks of research! I know it might be more satisfying and more "OEM" looking to do a retrofit but if you screw it up, you will end up needing to buy a new set of headlights! It also won't completely give me the overall look that I want.

[billm0066]

Hey Kevin

 

I am looking at getting these as well. I have done a TON of research on these as well as doing a projector retrofit on my existing headlights. The bulb type that this aftermarket projector headlight assembly uses is H1 for the low beam projector and H1 for the high beam reflector. So your current HID conversion bulbs will not work with these headlights. Things I'm considering before I buy are;

 

1. How much do I want to spend? Aftermarket projector assembly $320-$400(depending on where you buy). If you want HID along with these headlights it will cost another $35-$150(depending on where you buy). If you do a retrofit, I would recommend getting the Mini Morimoto H1 kit. This is cheaper at $270. This retrofit comes with HID bulb and ballast so there is no need to buy an HID kit along with it.

 

2. How much work do I want to do? The aftermarket headlights would require me taking off the bumper and removing existing headlights, wiring the led lights and halos into existing parking lights and wiring the aftermarket HID kit. The retrofit would require taking off the front bumper, removing existing headlights, baking them open and disassembling them, modifying shroud and/or reflector for fitment, reassemble headlight, wiring HID kit and checking headlight alignment.

 

This is what I'm leaning towards. Getting the aftermarket projector headlights, buying H1(due to aftermarket headlight bulb) Morimoto HID kit with CanBus(to avoid bulb out warning) with H11 harness(to hook into existing headlight harness) from the RetrofitSource($150). The reason I am doing this is that the aftermarket headlights give me the "look" I am going for with 2 halos and black housing which will work with my "blackout" theme but I get a GREAT HID kit from the RetrofitSource with a great reputation on their products and service! I know there are some concerns about fitment and light output with these Spec D Tuning headlights but from what I've seen I am willing to take my chances. Many have bought these headlights! Light output and pattern might not be as good as doing a retrofit but again, I am going more for the look rather than having the "perfect cutoff". I get a high quality HID kit for my lows and another matching HID kit for my fogs to complete the look!

 

One more option that I want to mention is sending your headlights to Advanced Automotive Concepts (aacstyle). They will do the retrofit for you with any halos, leds and projectors that you want! This would be the perfect option if it wasn't for 2 MAJOR problems! 1. You either have to send your existing headlights(kind of a problem if you drive your car) or buy a replacement set $$ and send those in! Who knows how long they will have them for but they do AWESOME work from what I've seen. 2. They are VERY expensive! I emailed them and asked for a quote for a projector retrofit to my low beam, halos and painting the reflector housing. They emailed me back promptly and said it would cost $717 to do the retrofit with halos, $150 to paint and another $229 for HID setup plus the cost of shipping to and from! That's $1100 before shipping costs and new headlights to send them! So this option could cost you around $1500 after all is said and done!

 

This is just my opinion after doing weeks of research! I know it might be more satisfying and more "OEM" looking to do a retrofit but if you screw it up, you will end up needing to buy a new set of headlights! It also won't completely give me the overall look that I want.

 

I just ordered a set of the stage 3 Morimoto h1's from the retrofit source. They are running a 25% off right now. See this link http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/group-buys/200652-big-trs-group-buy-again-due-high-demand.html

 

I also just won a set of 09 headlights from ebay for $107 shipped, so I will use those.

 

Stay away from the aftermarket projector headlights. They are JUNK. Trying to change projectors in it is going to be difficult, because the inside of those lights will be smaller. Buy the mini h1's, install, paint the reflector if you want, and keep the halos or leds out of it. Imo those are both screaming ricer.

 

Fyi it's not about having a perfect cutoff. It's about light distribution and your safety. Your headlights primary function is to illuminate dark roads, and the projector lights will not do a good job of it.

[FusionDiffusion]

Fyi it's not about having a perfect cutoff. It's about light distribution and your safety. Your headlights primary function is to illuminate dark roads, and the projector lights will not do a good job of it.

Their primary function is to illuminate the road in a way that is not blinding or distracting to other oncoming drivers, while allowing your car to be seen. Perfect light distribution is secondary to proper beam shape and cutoff for the safety of other drivers. Projector housings with cutoffs are a must with HIDs because the glare and beam pattern cannot be kept in check using other methods (which is especially relevant when illegally putting HIDs in a housing designed for halogens). It seems like no one understands this anymore and is egocentric about their own purported "safety" at the expense of others.

 

Remember it's a two-way street.

[billm0066]

Their primary function is to illuminate the road in a way that is not blinding or distracting to other oncoming drivers, while allowing your car to be seen. Perfect light distribution is secondary to proper beam shape and cutoff for the safety of other drivers. Projector housings with cutoffs are a must with HIDs because the glare and beam pattern cannot be kept in check using other methods (which is especially relevant when illegally putting HIDs in a housing designed for halogens). It seems like no one understands this anymore and is egocentric about their own purported "safety" at the expense of others.

 

Remember it's a two-way street.

 

 

I have no idea why you even said this to me. Did my previous post confuse you? You are preaching to the choir. I have done quite a few retrofits in the last 7 years. 2009 Caliber srt-4 with FX-r's, 2002 neon r/t with full srt-4 swap with e-55 bi xenons, 2004 Ford escape with Ford oem bi xenon projectors (I think they are made by valeo), 2003 Ford escape with another set of ford bi xenon projectors, 2003 neon srt-4 with tsx low beam projectors, and now i'm doing these morimoto because I dont feel like hacking up the lights this time around. Besides im curious to see how well they perform. If they suck I will pull them out and do a real retrofit. I have been driving a 2011 SHO the last 1.5 years, so I havent been tuned into the retro fit scene since they come stock with bi xenon headlights stock.

 

I understand the purpose of a retrofit, and why it's the correct way to install hids. I cringe when I see people sticking hid's in reflector housings. I simply stated that the projector headlights you buy on ebay are junk. With an hid kit or not. The projectors inside are not designed for hid, and the results will be poor. Removing those projectors and installing new ones are going to be hard, since the inside of those lights are smaller than oem, which is why I recommended he go with morimotos instead. Do you understand now?

[FusionDiffusion]

I apologize if I misconstrued your reply to Willygolf77. Your last sentence was somewhat vague and seemed to imply that all projectors and cutoffs were not worth anyone's time for HIDs, and overall light distribution was more important than having a proper cutoff. I believe you meant to say that aftermarket halogen projectors are not any good for HIDs (agree), and you prefer to retrofit dedicated HID projector housings (which you are doing). I think we're clear now.

[billm0066]

I apologize if I misconstrued your reply to Willygolf77. Your last sentence was somewhat vague and seemed to imply that all projectors and cutoffs were not worth anyone's time for HIDs, and overall light distribution was more important than having a proper cutoff. I believe you meant to say that aftermarket halogen projectors are not any good for HIDs (agree), and you prefer to retrofit dedicated HID projector housings (which you are doing). I think we're clear now.

 

I was in a rush out of the house and didn't have time for a full post so I think that lead to the confusion. Point being, projector headlights = garbage. Hid's in oem housings = garbage. Real retrofit = the right and best way to do it.

[3 point 5]

How is the aftermarket HID output for the 2010- 2012 with the stock projectores? Do you know if anyone has had any issues with with how they light up the road?

[billm0066]

How is the aftermarket HID output for the 2010- 2012 with the stock projectores? Do you know if anyone has had any issues with with how they light up the road?

 

Better than reflector housings but still the quality is quite poor.

 

Let me explain a little how it works. When companies build the lights, they design the reflector or projector around the type of bulb they use. In this case it's a halogen bulb. A halogen bulb and an hid bulb have different focal points, so when you put an hid bulb in a halogen fixture, the light leaves that fixture differently. This is what causes uneven light throw, and blinding other drivers. The other issue is the quality of the aftermarket hid kits is spotty at best. You are buying from companies who have little to no quality control. This means you could either get a defective kit that will not last, or a kit that could cause damage to your lights. I have seen a couple 2010+ fusions with hid kit's in person, and the output didn't look that great. I have yet to see anyone take a decent night photo with their cutoff on the wall. I have also not seen anyone open up 2010 lights to install new projectors, but it doesn't look like it would be that hard. It just depends how much room is inside there.

 

Also wanted to mention that not all halogen projectors do a bad job with hid. The fog lights on the fusion are actually decent, but they do not have the capability to provide enough light for headlight use. I believe Mazda had a few cars that also responded well, and did an even better job when the projector was modded.

Edited February 6, 2012 by billm0066

[Oldguy16]

Better than reflector housings but still the quality is quite poor.

 

Let me explain a little how it works. When companies build the lights, they design the reflector or projector around the type of bulb they use. In this case it's a halogen bulb. A halogen bulb and an hid bulb have different focal points, so when you put an hid bulb in a halogen fixture, the light leaves that fixture differently. This is what causes uneven light throw, and blinding other drivers. The other issue is the quality of the aftermarket hid kits is spotty at best. You are buying from companies who have little to no quality control. This means you could either get a defective kit that will not last, or a kit that could cause damage to your lights. I have seen a couple 2010+ fusions with hid kit's in person, and the output didn't look that great. I have yet to see anyone take a decent night photo with their cutoff on the wall. I have also not seen anyone open up 2010 lights to install new projectors, but it doesn't look like it would be that hard. It just depends how much room is inside there.

 

Also wanted to mention that not all halogen projectors do a bad job with hid. The fog lights on the fusion are actually decent, but they do not have the capability to provide enough light for headlight use. I believe Mazda had a few cars that also responded well, and did an even better job when the projector was modded.

I'm all for doing a retrofit and doing it the right way. However I have HID's in my stock projectors in my 2010 and I have yet to see a car with a better scatter pattern than that. A friend of mine has a 2010 Camaro with OEM HID's, which arent as bright, and have a worse pattern. Another friend of mine did a retrofit in a bronco and I believe my light pattern still looks better. I really don't feel like creating a photobucket account or whatever it is to post pictures but I guess I'll have to so I can prove my point. Also once I readjusted my fogs, the HID's I have in there look fantastic, I've heard nothing but compliments from my setup. I know the headlights in the Fusion weren't built for HID's however they do a pretty damn good job at it anyway. I wish it were a bi-xenon setup from the factory but oh well. I hate having to keep halogens in my high beams but there's really no other option.

[billm0066]

I'm all for doing a retrofit and doing it the right way. However I have HID's in my stock projectors in my 2010 and I have yet to see a car with a better scatter pattern than that. A friend of mine has a 2010 Camaro with OEM HID's, which arent as bright, and have a worse pattern. Another friend of mine did a retrofit in a bronco and I believe my light pattern still looks better. I really don't feel like creating a photobucket account or whatever it is to post pictures but I guess I'll have to so I can prove my point. Also once I readjusted my fogs, the HID's I have in there look fantastic, I've heard nothing but compliments from my setup. I know the headlights in the Fusion weren't built for HID's however they do a pretty damn good job at it anyway. I wish it were a bi-xenon setup from the factory but oh well. I hate having to keep halogens in my high beams but there's really no other option.

 

 

It takes two minutes to make an account. Here's what you do for the photo.

 

Find a large light colored wall on flat concrete. Park your car about 30 feet back and aim the lights at the wall. Then snap some photos. If you have a decent camera, then slow the shutter a little bit to let some extra light in. The ones I have seen in person looked pretty crappy overall. The hids in camaros are garbage. Those are at the bottom of the barrel in the projector world. I doubt your lights are actually brighter, because his car is using oem 4300k bulbs, which will have about the max lumens. Your kit might appear brighter, but in reality it's just higher on the kelvin rating making them appear more white/blue. What kind of projectors did your friend use in his bronco? Just because you do a retro, doesn't mean the output will be amazing. It will only be as good as the parts he used.

 

Adjusting your fogs to put more light on the foreground might make them look better, but it can actually hurt your night time vision. If the foreground is too bright, your eyes will focus too much on that, and it will hinder how far you can see. Not a good idea when driving on the highway doing 70+ mph, but wont be bad for city driving. I plan on aiming mine higher as well, but I wont use them on the freeway.

[Oldguy16]

I have 55w 8k bulbs in both my fogs and headlights. They are rated at 4100 lumens per bulb and they were tested at an output of 4000 lumens per bulb. A friend of mine bought a lumen meter. There is no way, that an oem HID will put out that much light, its a simple matter of wattage. I'm well aware these 55w kits are less efficient than an OEM 35w setup, however the overall output still surpasses. I'm also well aware that the quality of an aftermarket kit is nowhere near an OEM setup. My friend with the bronco had a morimoto kit. At least that's what he told me, I didn't assist with the install. I will take a picture of the setup in the next few days. Before I do post the pictures I'm also well aware one of my fog lights is slightly off. It's winter and I'm not getting under the car to fix it when its 27 degrees.

[Oldguy16]

Side note, a few months ago I drove an Aston Martin Vantage, which btw, did not have as good of a cutoff as my Fusion, or have the span of light my fusion has. Otherwise the car was awesome :D

[billm0066]

I have 55w 8k bulbs in both my fogs and headlights. They are rated at 4100 lumens per bulb and they were tested at an output of 4000 lumens per bulb. A friend of mine bought a lumen meter. There is no way, that an oem HID will put out that much light, its a simple matter of wattage. I'm well aware these 55w kits are less efficient than an OEM 35w setup, however the overall output still surpasses. I'm also well aware that the quality of an aftermarket kit is nowhere near an OEM setup. My friend with the bronco had a morimoto kit. At least that's what he told me, I didn't assist with the install. I will take a picture of the setup in the next few days. Before I do post the pictures I'm also well aware one of my fog lights is slightly off. It's winter and I'm not getting under the car to fix it when its 27 degrees.

 

4,000 lumens on an overdriven 8,000k bulb? Doubtful. Oem cars are pushing about 3,400 lumens. If you told me they were dl50's with a 55 watt ballast then I would believe you. You want to see something awesome? Hook up a pair of dl50 fat boys on 100 watts and they will push 8,500 lumens each while being reliable.

 

The fusions I saw in person looked terrible, and I don't see how yours will be any better. Even the valeos in my Taurus performed better, but they had me beat in the blue department lol. Im going to try the morimotos tomorrow, because the extra set of headlights should be in. Hopefully they are decent enough for me to keep, but if not it looks like I will have to hack up those lights to get something better in. Most people seem happy though. The one I tested off of my drill battery seemed like it was good.

 

I will say this. Sticking hids in a halogen projector is better than a reflector light, since it will dramatically reduce glare to oncoming drivers. However it will not perform like a true hid projector. With that being said there are exceptions to this rule, but the fusion is not one of them. I would consider it just "okay".

[Willygolf77]

I just ordered a set of the stage 3 Morimoto h1's from the retrofit source. They are running a 25% off right now. See this link http://www.tacomawor...igh-demand.html

 

I also just won a set of 09 headlights from ebay for $107 shipped, so I will use those.

 

Stay away from the aftermarket projector headlights. They are JUNK. Trying to change projectors in it is going to be difficult, because the inside of those lights will be smaller. Buy the mini h1's, install, paint the reflector if you want, and keep the halos or leds out of it. Imo those are both screaming ricer.

 

Fyi it's not about having a perfect cutoff. It's about light distribution and your safety. Your headlights primary function is to illuminate dark roads, and the projector lights will not do a good job of it.

Billm,

I am seriously thinking of going the same route as you! I just have to get a second set to work on! There is a member of Ford Fusion Club(BlackFusion007 I think) that did a detailed write-up with pictures on his retrofit. He used the Bi Xenon Morimoto Mini H1 setup. The only real modifying that he had to do was trim the shroud and reflector for fitment and trim the back of the reflector where the projector is fastened. It didn't look to bad....just some dremel work. He took the stock H7 bulb out of the housing for the high beam and painted the entire reflector. I would love to paint the whole thing but I kind of like the idea of leaving the stock high beam in there. You get 4 high beams!! Just have to figure out how to go about it cuz I won't be able to paint that reflector. Is it possible to paint the chrome trim around the headlight assembly? The part that is connected to the lense?

[billm0066]

Billm,

I am seriously thinking of going the same route as you! I just have to get a second set to work on! There is a member of Ford Fusion Club(BlackFusion007 I think) that did a detailed write-up with pictures on his retrofit. He used the Bi Xenon Morimoto Mini H1 setup. The only real modifying that he had to do was trim the shroud and reflector for fitment and trim the back of the reflector where the projector is fastened. It didn't look to bad....just some dremel work. He took the stock H7 bulb out of the housing for the high beam and painted the entire reflector. I would love to paint the whole thing but I kind of like the idea of leaving the stock high beam in there. You get 4 high beams!! Just have to figure out how to go about it cuz I won't be able to paint that reflector. Is it possible to paint the chrome trim around the headlight assembly? The part that is connected to the lense?

 

I just finished mine tonight. Got them installed. The only issue is I am getting error messages on my dash. The lights do not flicker, but the error keeps popping up and it's annoying. Same thing happened on my caliber srt-4, and heres how I fixed it.

 

These lights were installed using a relay harness. If you are unfamiliar, it's a harness that draws power directly from the battery, and only uses the headlight plug for a signal to turn on and off. Since you are no longer using the headlight plugs for power, it's sending errors that the bulbs are burned up. I plan on cutting the power wire from the relay harness that goes to the headlight plug, and then tapping it into the driving lights. This means your headlights will not turn on with the driving lights. Since you can turn your fogs on with the driving lights there's no issue with that.

 

As far as the retrofit goes. Overall it was pretty easy. The 06-09 lights are pretty small inside. There's not much choice in terms of a real projector. Especially bi xenon. I was going to go with a paint scheme like I saw on fusionclub. I used oem lights with this retro (he used tyc). I applied tape to the chrome shroud (part that attaches to the lens). I used the green automotive painters tape, and it took the chrome right off. Lets just say I was not happy. I was then forced to paint more of the headlight black than I originally wanted too.

 

Couple issues I had.

 

The oem lights were a pain to open. The first light took almost 2-3 hours alone. The 2nd light was more like 1-1.5 hours. My advice. Stick the lights in the oven at 250 for 10 minutes. Pull it out and start prying. Once it starts to cool get it back in for another 10. Once the top is separated, I had to get them in for 15 minutes at 250 to get the bottom open. Took about 5-6 trips total for each light.

 

The lens shroud would not fit with the projector installed. I had to dremel some of that away. I think blackfusion took too much material away on the back side of the light. I used a dremel with a sanding bit to open the holes up just a little more, but I didnt level the ridges. The lock nut for the projector fit on the back just fine.

 

Fyi my lights utilize the halogen hi beams as well. You just tap the solenoid wires into the hi beam wires and voila. bi xenons with halogens at the same time. I probably invested about 15 hours on this retro. If I did it again I could do it in less than 1/2 the time. If I were to do it again, I would buy a set of tyc lights and use those. Aftermarket lights are always easier to open than oem.

[Willygolf77]

That's what I've been hearing! Definitely gonna get some aftermarket headlights and not OEM. As long as I seal em up real well at the end, I'm sure they will be fine. From all of the stories that I've heard, the baking of the headlights is the biggest PITA! Other than that, everything says its just getting them to fit in well. It's on my mod list at #3 right now. I just got a moonroof installed today, then next is some Steeda Springs with Koni Yellows and then the retrofit. Do you have any pics? I wanna see the final product!!

[billm0066]

I only have this picture I took yesterday while taking some photos of houses. Weather has been crappy, so this is about the best for the time being. I'm still undecided if I think the headlights really fit my car or not. I wanted something that looked more oem, but stood out a little. I feel these stick out a little too much. However they perform very well so i'm happy about that.

 

[Willygolf77]

I LOVE those!! Nice job!! I don't think they are over the top at all. They make the front end look more modern. It looks like you painted the reflector and the chrome trim that is attached to the lense. I want everything to be black except for the high beam reflector and turn signal.

[billm0066]

I LOVE those!! Nice job!! I don't think they are over the top at all. They make the front end look more modern. It looks like you painted the reflector and the chrome trim that is attached to the lense. I want everything to be black except for the high beam reflector and turn signal.

 

Everything on mine is black except the high beam, turn signal area, and the shroud covering the projector. I like having four high beams on my headlights.

[Adrian Morales]

Probably a dumb question, but since these after halo projector headlights use H1 bulbs is there a problem installing them? Since th fusion uses h11

[Willygolf77]

Adrian,

 

If you are talking about the OP of the aftermarket headlights, yes those use H1 bulbs and the headlight comes supplied with a harness that will work with our H11 plugs. If you are referring to the retrofit projectors, those use H1 bulbs as well and the retrofit kit comes with a wiring harness that will plug n play with our stock H11 plug as well. Either way, you will get what you need to make it work. Both options are plug n play unless you order ccfl angel eyes with the retrofit which need to be wired into your parking lights if you wish. The aftermarket assembly comes with led angel eyes and led lights which need to be wired into your parking lights as well. Not too big of a deal...just some quick connectors and you're good to go!